@Fisherman: perhaps it is true that you could get Jews on Shabbat to kill someone, then again, Jesus as described never really existed. The allegory in scripture though would’ve mentioned such deviance, especially from the Jewish viewpoint, it would’ve been a deal of contention amongst the Pauline adherents at the very least that their deity died during a period where Jews or Jesus’ disciples weren’t allowed to do such things as get out of their houses and travel great distances? Or the Sanhedrin and Romans violating Passover rules on account of 3 low level criminals and a rabblerouser.
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Nisan 14 or not?
by LostintheFog1999 inif jesus memorial meal is meant to follow on from the jewish passover celebration, would someone explain to me why the jehovah's witness community are holding their "lord's evening meal" on tuesday 4th april; when the jewish community are not holding their 2023 passover until the 5th april 2023?
doesn't this mean that the jehovahs have got their date wrong?.
https://www.londonworld.com/read-this/passover-2023-what-is-passover-dates-and-greetings-4091833.
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Another new missing part of the Bible found
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22011278/new-bible-chapter-hidden-verses-discovered-erased-scribe/.
i wonder what the remaining members of the gb will make of this?.
i excited to read all of this once it’s released and compare with the rest of mathew.
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Anony Mous
The thing is that archeologists regularly find new parts of Christian writings, it often doesn’t stroke with the current ‘accepted’ translations or canon so theologians will ignore it. The Cave of Horror was discovered in 1960 and is an active dig site since 2017 and continues to dig up Old Testament translations from ~100BC-100CE that haven’t survived the millennia,
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Password using another language, or mixed languages?
by FatFreek 2005 ini just tried something in windows 10 and it worked (i think).. i went to the google online free translator, entered a couple english words, then translated them into russian.. the two words i entered are russian english.
the translator returned русский английский.
i then used those words together as a password for a libre office word junk document, saved the document.
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Anony Mous
The best passwords these days are passphrases with mixed case and non-alphanumeric characters.
I personally use 24-32 character passphrases, with combination of character sets. A passphrase is easy to remember, it’s a sentence you modify into a password.
However, document passwords often are pointless and are not secure at all, the implementation of document passwords makes it very easy to crack the password regardless of length, you are better off encrypting the document with something like PGP.
Here is the reason for passphrases, note that even 34,000 years is not considered secure enough, this halves every 18 months and you can just “rent” thousands of computers on Amazon or the Dark Web. You need something that take millions of years to crack.
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Christmas Decorations at the Kingdom hall
by Simon ini can't remember if i've told this story before .... but back in the day, in irlam congregation (northwest england, uk, cheshire #1 circuit i think) we used to rent a kingdom hall for many years before we eventually built our own.. preston hall.
ah, the memories .... it was primarily used as a community hall for old folks, but we had it friday night and sunday morning.. there was a loft and fold-out ladder and we used to store the chairs up their.
every meeting, there would be an assembly line of all the "lads" to pass the chairs down and set them up, then collect them up and pass them back up at the end of the meeting.
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Anony Mous
I remember having to go to one of those little community centers for the memorial. I don't know if anyone remembers, but in the 80s-90s it was the directive that the memorial should be held as soon as possible after sun down, so if you had a congregation that shared a hall, you had 2, 3 congregations renting community spaces right around the easter and other spring equinox celebrations.
Eventually the directive came down that we would be required to look for places that were commercial so we could negotiate the place without special decorations and you couldn't rent facilities from churches anymore, and then later came the directive that if you had multiple congregations in the same building, you'd just have to do one after the other, which was hilarious with traffic when 4 congregations need to go in and out of a building with street parking between 7 and 10pm - no time to talk, elders rushed people in and rushed the other congregation out, cops showed up because it was loud and a nuisance.
Looking back, it's surprising how many people woke up over time, just because they got jostled to think when these weird rules and regulation changes happened, about what is ostensibly the most important day to 'true believer' JWs - if they can't even get the rules around that right.
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UK Hospital using Kingdom Melodies - complaint
by AEnEm ini found out that a uk hospital (nnuh) uses kingdom melodies as hold music, apparently for some years!
i called and heard it myself.
i wrote an email to the complaints team and await a response.
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Anony Mous
If that is the case, I hope the brother gets fired for perpetuating this copyright infringement.
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UK Hospital using Kingdom Melodies - complaint
by AEnEm ini found out that a uk hospital (nnuh) uses kingdom melodies as hold music, apparently for some years!
i called and heard it myself.
i wrote an email to the complaints team and await a response.
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Anony Mous
Are you sure they were actually Kingdom melodies? I occasionally attend Presbyterian churches and their hymnals (which are properly attributed all the way back to the 1400s, but most being from around mid-1800s, about the same time JWs started) are VERY similar both in melody, structure and content to the JW muzak, there are entire songs that are just a few bars and octaves different.
It is well known that Russell, Rutherford and to date, the WTBTS has plagiarized a LOT of their output, including a lot of their belief systems from mid-1800s religious revival including the Presbyterians, Mennonites, spiritualists etc. their more modern 'songs' have lots of contemporary influence including Disney, REM etc.
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Why are JW's THIS blind?
by BoogerMan ini had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.
an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.
the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.
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Anony Mous
I think the contradiction is apparent but OP highlights the wrong aspect:
IMHO, the contradiction is here: The unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [John 5:29] before their death
which does not stroke with the believe they have that death wipes out all sin.
When the article says, they won’t be allowed to practice evil, that means nobody can commit sin, so nobody can be judged or get killed (they won’t have free will).
What I understand as the logical conclusion from the article as quoted is that the “unrighteous” according to this Noo Light are pre-judged before death and thus have no chance to avoid judgment in the new world.
It indeed does not make any sense in light of other doctrines they themselves hold or core Christian doctrines. Sure the article can make sense, but only if you throw out all other believes JW have about resurrection and the 1000 years.
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Nisan 14 or not?
by LostintheFog1999 inif jesus memorial meal is meant to follow on from the jewish passover celebration, would someone explain to me why the jehovah's witness community are holding their "lord's evening meal" on tuesday 4th april; when the jewish community are not holding their 2023 passover until the 5th april 2023?
doesn't this mean that the jehovahs have got their date wrong?.
https://www.londonworld.com/read-this/passover-2023-what-is-passover-dates-and-greetings-4091833.
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Anony Mous
So am I correct in reading that the JW argue that Jesus celebrated Passover a day early on Shabbat? This would have been extremely controversial in both scripture and historians would argue about it today. Also, where would they get the preparation of the room and the lamb, Jewish people at the time would be outraged, also then the Passion would occur during Jewish Passover (which is technically 2 days), no Rabbi, Pharisee or Sadducee would be caught dead ‘working’ on convicting Jesus on those days, no mob would have formed. It only makes sense that Jesus did a ‘regular’ Jewish Passover and then after, when he was on the Mount of Olives the next day had begun, then the mob came out, he was tried and convicted.
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Why are JW's THIS blind?
by BoogerMan ini had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.
an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.
the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.
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@ExBethelite, what scriptural grounds do they have for these assertions, the first assertion is indeed supported by Christian writings, the second assertion not by the canonical biblical text, since the idea of a 1000 year ‘in-between’ purgatory-style earth or reincarnation is not in the Bible.
Thus if you ask to justify, it does indeed become contradictory to the biblical texts. Yes, you can make excuses for it, but you can’t assert biblical sourcing, redemption through faith is the core of Christianity and a resurrection to incorruptible state is asserted by Paul (1 Cor 15) and various other verses.
The JWs assert a 1000 year temporary reincarnation based on misinterpretation of a single scripture in Revelation and off course Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach and a few other Judaic and early Christian apocrypha and commentaries which Russell and Rutherford were quite fond of plagiarizing for their interpretation.
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Is English a hybrid language?
by LoveUniHateExams inthe short answer is no, it is not.. i have heard one or two proposals that it is, including from langfocus, a usually excellent youtube channel.. but no, english is actually a germanic language which has borrowed many words from other languages.
here are several reasons why english is germanic at its core .... 1. verb forms.
i play - ich spiele.
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Again, not arguing that it's not a Germanic language, only that it's a lot more complicated than saying it doesn't have a huge Romance language influence that could be considered 'hybrid' (whatever that means).
Gerund is a word that looks like a verb, but it acts like a noun, which French has a ton of, as does English, which is rare in Germanic language.
Your argument is that Old English from Old German (actually Low Countries Germanic is more accurate, as Germanic historically is itself split into two or three 'languages'), thus it hasn't always had anything. Most of the merging happened over thousands of years as people conquered each other. The Romans were in control of modern day Britain for a long time, as did the French, and the Dutch/Frisians/Norse influences came later, but there is a LOT of influence from both languages. English was long seen by royalty and ruling classes to be the language of the 'poor' and spoke French in their courts instead, so to say there was no influence and that there is no hybridization is a stretch imho.
